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Post  dangerruss on Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:31 pm

This thread is to hash out the local details for anyone wanting to take place in the 2nd arms march for the second amendment. The date of this event is February 8 @ 10:00 am. On the capitol sidewalk.

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Property line

Post  Unbound on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:48 pm

We need to figure out the property line around the capitol so we don't cross it. Many will be carrying and as far as I know we can't carry on Gov property.

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Post  dangerruss on Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:53 pm

Actually we need to figure out if the capitol building is state or federal property first. As far as I am aware we have a legal right to carry on state property with the exception of court houses schools jails probation offices and juvenile detention facilities. But this is a concern and I am looking into it. And don't take my word for any of this until I can provide proof. If a property line needs to be established then it will be so.

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The Idaho capitol building is state property

Post  IdahoOpenCarry on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:59 pm

We open carry on the capitol property and inside the building when we visit the library. No part of this property is federal.
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I'm there

Post  RandyBuck on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:01 pm

Will be there folks ... Thanks for clarifying Tony!

Does everyone want to have a central meeting place then march to the Capitol or just go to the Capitol. IMHO a short march there will raise more awareness but I'm game for either way.

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Post  dangerruss on Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:44 pm

Guess that depends on the goal for us in Idaho. We are a pro gun state with pro gun representatives and pro gun senators and a pro gun Governor. Marching in Idaho is very much preaching to the choir. We could march in favor of one of the bills amending or ending the gun free school zones. Or we could march in solidarity with the other more oppressed states. But I think we need to establish some sort of a goal or at least a good idea of what we are tying to accomplish by marching in Idaho. Either that or we could focus on getting our representatives to call for impeachment of Feinstein and a couple of the other notorious gun grabbers in Washington. What do you guys think I'm just throwing out ideas.

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Post  Unbound on Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:10 am

Dangerruss, I like the idea of having a focused purpose. Though the march, through media, could be seen by more then Idaho. How bout the Depot to the Statehouse?

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Idaho March Recommendations

Post  CarryIdahoBC on Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:18 am

How about focusing the effort on STATE LAW, like repealing part of Idaho Code [IC] §50-308, which reads: (emphasized part

50-308. MAINTENANCE OF PEACE -- LICENSING AND REGULATING AMUSEMENTS. Cities shall have power: to prevent and restrain riots, routs, noises, disturbances or disorderly assemblies; to regulate, prevent and punish for the carrying of concealed weapons; to arrest, regulate, punish, fine or set at work on the streets or elsewhere, vagrants or persons found without visible means of support or legitimate business; license and regulate theaters, halls, concerts, dances, theatrics, circuses, carnivals, exhibitions, amusements and other performances, where an admission fee may or may not be charged.

Yes, you read it correctly, all 201 Idaho cities have the "expressly authorized" [exact words, see IC §18-3302J(2), Idaho's "Preemptive Firearms" code] power to ban the carry of concealed weapons inside their city limits.

This emphasized portion of the law above has been law since 1893. Yes, 120 years ago!

I don't want to have to call every city in Idaho I travel to just to find out if I can conceal carry my weapon or not when I have my CWP.

Then again, if they prefer me to open carry, I'm totally fine with that. The likes of one city council to the east of where I live and right below Bogus Basin woudn't, me thinks, like that.

So, YES, let's march from (at least) Boise City Hall to the Capital Steps (note: I'm taking action tomorrow (1/7) to reserve the Capital steps from 8am to 12pm, as the steps are the only portion of the Capital area that can be reserved), then continue inside to bring a resounding stance on passing legislation that repeals the above portion of Idaho Code §50-308 along with our stance on no further gun control laws, period.

Candidly, though, the repeal of IC §50-308 may have already occurred by this point in the legislative session.

If that's the case, then bring a resounding stance that there should be NO EXEMPTIONS for an Idaho CWP, especially for "public elected officials of Idaho" [IC §18-3302(12)(e)] and "officials of a county, city, ... or State of Idaho" [IC §18-3302(12)(a)], which DOES INCLUDE *EVERY SINGLE* city, county, and state person who is "elected, appointed, or hired" [see IC § 9-337(12)].

However, I am kind of in favor (more not, though) of a 180-day exemption "grace period" from whence a person is confirmed as having become "elected" to be "exempted". Thing is, a criminal (albeit, of the misdemeanor variety, such as simple assault) can become a "public elected official" and, with no background check, can now circumvent the Sheriff's requirements and/or decision and automatically conceal carry. While such to my knowledge has yet to occur in the good State of Idaho, those appointed to govern SHOULD NOT have any special privileges, period. And, yes, I am aware that this state "exemption" does not exempt a public official from the federal GFSZA. Hence, they should get their CWP, anyway.

BC

Note: I'd put links to the above Idaho Code references, but can't do so for 7 days as a "new" member...sorry!


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Re: idaho march

Post  dangerruss on Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:19 pm

Thanks for reserving the steps for the march. Not really sure how prudent the first law is since to my knowledge it isn't enforced. Although I can see the potential for the abuse. That must be where the fabled its illegal to carry in Boise came from. (don't worry it isn't). I also wonder if there is a law on the books giving state law authority over local law. But that can be reviewed later. someone brought up a good point somewhere else that a speaker needs to be prepared with a speech in case the media shows up.

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Settle this early and get your talking points out there.

Post  IdahoOpenCarry on Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:06 pm

As an ex-politician who has been taken advantage of by the press early in my career, remember that the liberal press is going to interview anyone who looks in the least bit strange or rowdy and look for foolish quotes that will make national news in their attempt to diminish our cause.

Make this rally simple by addressing one issue with 5 or 6 talking points that even the strange and rowdy can memorize. I would make this event a celebration of Idaho's gun rights and stand in solidarity with those whose gun rights have been diminished or taken from them.

Get gun and crime stats out there for everyone and don't make this a confusing mishmash of causes, much like the anarchists do, which is the main reason that they are always relegated to being nuts without a cause. Make this outing a joyful celebration of our 2nd Amendment rights and our rights under the Idaho Constitution.

If this rally is successful and viewed positively by the public, it will open the door to you organizing committees to address amending our laws with our legislators.

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Re: idaho march

Post  zanbuscus on Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:28 am

Living in Idaho really is great. Unfortunately, I have no way to make it to the State Capitol, so I hope it will be all right if I write my state reps & senators & ask them to impeach Feinstein for treason to the US & the Constitution.

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Need to find out....

Post  Unbound on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:06 am

Some thing shat need considering. Because of the following we need to check with the State Attorney general or risk jail or being dispersed. Seems they have a problem with armed groups....

TITLE 46
MILITIA AND MILITARY AFFAIRS
CHAPTER 8
MISCELLANEOUS AND GENERAL PROVISIONS
46-802. UNORGANIZED ASSOCIATIONS PROHIBITED -- PARADES PROHIBITED -- EXCEPTIONS. No body of men, other than the regularly organized national guard, the unorganized militia when called into service of the state, or of the United States, and except such as are regularly recognized and provided for by the laws of the state of Idaho and of the United States, shall associate themselves together as a military company or organization, or parade in public with firearms in any city or town of this state.
No city or town shall raise or appropriate any money toward arming or equipping, uniforming, or in any other way supporting, sustaining or providing drill rooms or armories for any such body of men; but associations wholly composed of soldiers honorably discharged from the service of the United States or members of the orders of Sons of Veterans, or of the Boy Scouts, may parade in public with firearms on Memorial Day or upon the reception of any regiment or companies of soldiers returning from such service, and for the purpose of escort duty at the burial of deceased soldiers; and students in educational institutions where military science is taught as a prescribed part of the course of instruction, may with the consent of the governor, drill and parade with firearms in public, under the superintendence of their teachers. This section shall not be construed to prevent any other organization authorized by law parading with firearms, nor to prevent parades by the national guard of any other state or territory.

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Need to find out: Part Two

Post  Unbound on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:07 am

That could be another law to needs amending. Unless there is case law to clarify it?

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I found our specific purpose!

Post  Unbound on Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:28 pm

ATTENTION I found what we need to petition for at the protest! Props to Wyoming for passing this one. Now for Idaho! Check it out. Follow the link in the photo description: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=483898128315001&set=a.359206010784214.77468.332056260165856&type=1&theater

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Post  Unbound on Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:13 am

Just found this but I think it could be further clarified to deny any federal gun laws:

CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF IDAHO

ARTICLE I DECLARATION OF RIGHTS

Section 11. RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. The people have the right to keep and bear arms, which right shall not be abridged; but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to govern the carrying of weapons concealed on the person nor prevent passage of legislation providing minimum sentences for crimes committed while in possession of a firearm, nor prevent the passage of legislation providing penalties for the possession of firearms by a convicted felon, nor prevent the passage of any legislation punishing the use of a firearm. No law shall impose licensure, registration or special taxation on the ownership or possession of firearms or ammunition. Nor shall any law permit the confiscation of firearms, except those actually used in the commission of a felony.

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